
Support and direction for lasting change
I'm an experienced clinical mental health counselor, and I offer therapy two ways: in person on nearby hiking trails, and by telehealth. I work with adults facing anxiety, depression, ADHD and life transitions, and with anyone who wants more happiness and fulfillment in their life.
What I help with
I work with people struggling with anxiety, depression and ADHD, with transitions and life changes, and with relationships. I also work with people who simply want more happiness and self-actualization for themselves.
Men often find it easier to talk side by side on a trail than face to face in an office. If that's you, you're in the right place.
“There is no way to happiness. Happiness is the way.”
Once you understand that, you can start learning the tools to manage your emotions and create your own happiness from the inside out, whatever your situation. Come join me on this journey of self-discovery and self-empowerment.
Two ways to meet
Trail Talk
Walk and talk therapy on hiking trails near Park City. Same therapy, outdoors, moving.
Telehealth
Secure video sessions from home, for when the trail isn't practical or you live further away.

About Rowlie
I've been in practice for 39 years. I earned my master's in Educational Psychology, Counseling, at the University of Utah in 1986, and I'm licensed in Utah and Colorado.
A lot of my life has been spent outdoors. I've worked as an adventure guide and in experiential and outdoor education, coached and taught skiing as a PSIA-certified instructor, and served on ski patrol and as an EMT. That's where Trail Talk comes from.
I'm married and a father of four.
My experience, training and deep sense of compassion help me give clients the support and direction they need.
How we start
In our first sessions we'll look closely at what brought you here, make a plan together for addressing it, and start building the tools you need to reach your goals.
Much of my work draws on Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. We'll look at how your thoughts shape your emotions and experience, and I'll help you learn to push back against the ones that work against you, so that you feel better and act differently.
I also draw on DBT, solution-focused, experiential and humanistic approaches, and coaching.

Trail Talk
Therapy on the trail, in the mountains around Park City.
Trail Talk is in-person therapy on nearby hiking trails. We walk, and we talk. It's the same therapy you'd get in an office, outdoors and on the move.
Free 15-minute consultationWhy the trail
Many people find it easier to think, and to say hard things, when they're moving and side by side rather than sitting across a room. Being outside, moving at an easy pace, can take some of the pressure off.
I've spent a lifetime outdoors as an adventure guide, outdoor educator, ski patroller and EMT. You'll be in experienced hands on the trail.

What people bring to the trail
Some arrive with one clear thing. Others arrive knowing only that something needs attention.
Where we walk
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Steps forward
Call
A free 15-minute consultation by phone. Tell me what's going on, and ask anything, including the questions beside this.
Pick a time
We agree on a trailhead and a time, and you'll know the spot, what to wear and what to expect before you set off.
Start walking
We start together on the trail, at whatever pace you set.
Questions people ask
None of them are silly, and asking any of them doesn't commit you to anything.
Will anyone hear us?
Where do we meet?
How far and how fast do we walk?
What if the weather turns?
Do we ever meet indoors?
Is it real therapy?
Fees & Insurance
Most major plans accepted, and a sliding scale for those who need it.
Insurance I accept
Call the number on your insurance card to check your mental health coverage, or get in touch and I'll help you verify it.
Ways to pay
Visa, Mastercard, American Express and Discover · Health Savings Account · Cash or check · PayPal or Venmo
Contact
The first step is a free 15-minute call.
Call or email and tell me a little about what's going on. We'll talk it through and decide together whether working with me is right for you.
Call or text 988, the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline, at any hour. In an emergency, call 911.
Park City, Utah
In crisis? Call or text 988.